NBC Must Be Stopped (odd start times are now all over their schedule)

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	From: sinca	Date: January 1st, 2004 05:15 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

That IS such a pain in the ass. I don't watch ER (yay for Without a Trace) so I haven't had to deal with it but now that it'll be screwing w/my Ed and Joan of Arcadia I might have to take action. hah.

Thanks for the reminder, I'll definitely take a peek at my season pass manager.

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	From: laurel	Date: January 1st, 2004 05:30 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

Yeah, it hadn't been much of an issue for me either yet since I gave up on ER at the beginning of last season. Much prefer Without A Trace. But I tried to mention the conflict on my website, so folks who do watch ER would know.

But now that NBC is gonna do this with Law & Order: SVU, Las Vegas, Ed, ER, Law & Order, and maybe others . . . it's gonna be a huge mess. And, frankly, if it comes down to choosing between something on another network and something on NBC, I'm less likely to pick the NBC show 'cuz of this. (Well, except maybe for Ed, 'cuz it's a fave and they don't usually rerun it. The Law & Orders will get rerun a lot so I can always catch them some other time).

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From: songmonk	Date: January 1st, 2004 05:24 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

Yeah, super annoying. I set a manual repeating recording for E.R. that starts on the hour, and then I set my VCR to record it too, just so I don't miss the beginning. So I watch the very beginning of E.R. on video tape and then switch over to my TiVo, b/c I HATE watching stuff on video tape!!

Oh, and I *also* have the higher priority E.R. season pass so that if CSI isn't on or is a rerun, then I get E.R. as normal in its entirety. :-)

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	From: brakusjs	Date: January 1st, 2004 05:26 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

TiVo needs to implement negative padding here and now. With shows starting at 8:59 we should have the ability to end shows one minute before the hour. So far we can only pad extra minutes into a program, but we can't take them out so that it doesn't interfere with other season passes....

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	From: inisfair	Date: January 1st, 2004 06:09 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

Or maybe a flag that allows a season pass to record a partial episode in the event of a conflict like that.

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	From: zonereyrie	Date: January 1st, 2004 06:42 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

TiVo users don't matter. Seriously. Statistically DVR users are negligible. Worse than that, DVR users are very likely to skip the ads. And if you aren't watching the ads your really of no use to the network.

So NBC really doesn't give a damn if TiVo users are unhappy. They're more interested in people watching live and getting people to stop switching channels to other networks, and cramming it more ads into higher rated shows (to make more money).

TiVo could really do things to help here, and I've RFE'd several of them: http://www.megazone.org/TiVo-RFEs.html

In this case most importantly:
- Negative padding. You could negative pad neighboring shows.
- Soft padding. Tell the unit to pad every recording by X minutes - if there is no conflict.
- Record fragments. Tell the unit to record fragments of programs if it can't find a non-conflicted airing in the schedule.

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	From: ehintz	Date: January 1st, 2004 08:19 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

This is where the dual tuner on the DirecTiVo comes in real handy. Sure do miss it.

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	From: txtarheel	Date: January 2nd, 2004 06:05 am (UTC)		(Permalink)

Ah, but even that isn't enough during March Madness for us freaky college basketball fans. I'd *love* negative padding at the beginning. That way I can record only the second half of many games. The manual record option is a huge pain.

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	From: shadoh	Date: January 2nd, 2004 07:17 am (UTC)		(Permalink)

Makes me glad to have dual-tuners!

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	From: psuedomeat	Date: January 2nd, 2004 07:34 am (UTC)		(Permalink)

I emailed them and recomend you do aswell.
nbcshows@nbc.com

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From: curehero	Date: January 17th, 2004 05:03 pm (UTC)		(Permalink)

http://research.tivo.com/suggestions/

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	From: armchairceo	Date: February 7th, 2004 01:01 am (UTC)		(Permalink)
	Re:

Thanks. I clicked on only "other" and pasted in the following:

Record partial episode on conflict (fragment recording). So many shows now (NBC in particular) are blocking three hours with a one hour show from 8:59 to 10:01. The higher priority show should "win" the overlap, but the other 59 minutes of the losing shows should still be recorded. This is SERIOUSLY hurting the value of TiVo for me. If I can not rely on the season pass functionality, I would consider leaving the service.

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